The saga is complete
May. 19th, 2005 08:53 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jedimara77So, here I am at work after getting a minimal night's sleep. I really hope I make it through the day. There's no way I'd be able to do any work without first posting my thoughts about Revenge of the Sith, so here goes.
My first reaction is to not like the movie. I know that may sound shocking, but that's only because of what happens in the movie. I am not lying when I say that movie had me crying through most of the second half. From the Jedi purge on, I would periodically lose it. When the credits rolled, I felt like I had been punched in the gut. It was not a happy Star Wars feeling. I guess this is how people felt after seeing Empire for the first time.
But, I did like the movie. A lot. I'm not sure if I love it yet. Probably, because, well, it's me we're talking about. There were many parts that floored me, and others that left me wanting more. I think that's my biggest problem - I want more, and there will be no more. Oh sure, they'll be EU galore, but the ending felt very rushed to me. It could have been another hour, for my liking.
Now, on to specific parts of the movie:
Padme: I actually liked her in the movie. Natalie Portman didn't suck! I would have liked to see more of her in the Senate, but overall, I felt sorry for her and enjoyed the role.
R2: DUDE! R2 rules! And I thought it was awesome that they were given to Captain Antilles, and (I think it was Bail?) told Antilles to have its memory erased. But I guess R2 remembers everything in the OT, which just amuses me to no end. He probably had nightmares of Luke going apeshit and killing everyone.
Palpatine: People have said that he steals the movie. I don't agree, but we'll get to that later. All I can say is, OH MY GOD. Possibly the best villain ever.
Bail Organa: He was awesome. Just what I expected him to be. And we finally go to see Alderaan (if even for a little bit).
Luke is older!!!!: As an EU geek, this makes me jump up and down to no end.
Padme's death: Felt very rushed. I would have liked for her and the twins to have some time together, alone, before she died. I didn't mind her dying because of the lack of will to live (in fact, I though that was why she died years ago), but I dunno. I wanted more. The funeral on Naboo was excellent, though. And her telling Obi-Wan that there was still good in Anakin.
The Immolation Scene: Well this movie definitely deserved a PG-13 rating. Wow. And Obi-Wan's dialogue to Anakin? Ripped my heart out. "I loved you!" .............. And Obi-Wan picked up Anakin's lightsaber. Guh.
Lightsaber fights: DUDE. To be honest, because of what I'd heard, I was expecting more from Obi-Wan and Anakin. BUT, splicing it with the Yoda/Palpatine fight friggin' rocked. The shot of Yoda and Palpatine rising up into the senate was SO COOL.
Yoda: Okay. Yoda rules. (As if we didn't all know that already.) I really need to watch ESB again.
The Jedi Purge: This is when I started crying. It met my expectations and much, much more. Seeing the clones turn on the Jedi was incredibly depressing. And Anakin marching into the temple? God. I had heard about the younglings, but GOD. How could he even justify that??
The arrest: I had heard conflicting stories of how Mace died. Some said Anakin killed him, others said Palpatine. So I was very confused. But they BOTH killed him. I would say that's a very fitting end for Mace. I don't buy the whole electrocution thing though. I still think it's just him being nasty from the dark side, but the electrocution gave him an excuse to look that way. Eh.
The loves scenes: Much, MUCH better.
Kasshyk: Again, Yoda rocks. Try to kill Yoda? Yeah, right. And Chewbacca putting him on his back was great. Everyone cheered at that part. I'm glad Chewbacca had a very small part. I didn't want it to be fanboy overkill.
Anakin/Vader: Hayden rocks. 'Nuff said.
Obi-Wan: Obi-Wan rocks. Ewan rocks. God he made me cry.
Anakin's turn: And here's where I get wavy. Since I became a Star Wars fan, I had ideas as to why Anakin turns to the dark side. Basically, I wanted it to be his choice, and his choice only. Obviously Palpatine seduces him to the dark side, but I didn't want him to be tricked. After the prequels started, I was very, very adamant that I didn't want Anakin to turn because of Padme's death or some other reason. So, I don't know how I feel about him agreeing to be Palpatine's apprentice just to save Padme. I know it all comes down to him wanting power and the ability to control people's lives, but I still don't know how I feel about this. At the end, though, when he was telling Padme that they could rule the galaxy, I got chills. When I watch Empire again, I will cry my eyes out at that part.
Anakin's knowledge of the "baby": I was actually quite satisfied by this. I can understand now why he doesn't go looking for them. And his shock about Leia will genuine in ROTJ.
Anakin "killing" Padme: I was very, very shocked by this. The first person Anakin force-chokes is Padme, of all people. It it ironic, that the main reason he learned the dark side was to save her, and then he ended up being responsible for her death. And the best part of this scene was Obi-Wan appearing on the ship ramp all bad-ass. I was thinking about this last night, in ROTJ when Vader says to Luke "Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends." He should know that's not true!!!! But it makes it so much more powerful though.
Vader: Not sure how I feel about this. Kind of disappointed. I liked that Anakin was trying to get off the table. It makes you feel like he didn't want to live anymore. I don't really like that the first thing he says is to ask about Padme. I always think Vader=pure dag-nasty evil. Would he care about Padme? I guess so. His reaction was not that fabulous. I liked him destroying everything, but not the yell. And Palpatine is a bastard for telling him he killed her. And incredibly stupid! Did he really think she was dead and there were no babies? I guess so, judging from the addition to the Empire DVD. And I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't a scene where Obi-Wan and Yoda learn that Anakin survived the lava.
The end: Binary sunset will never be the same. I wonder if the Lars' know what happened to Anakin.
Anakin and Obi-Wan: Now, when Obi-Wan says "And he was a good friend," I will truly believe him. IMO, that was the best part of the movie.
So that's it for now. I'm sure I'll post more when I see it. As you can see, there were parts I loved and parts I didn't. I'm dying to see it again, and talk about it with everyone!
My first reaction is to not like the movie. I know that may sound shocking, but that's only because of what happens in the movie. I am not lying when I say that movie had me crying through most of the second half. From the Jedi purge on, I would periodically lose it. When the credits rolled, I felt like I had been punched in the gut. It was not a happy Star Wars feeling. I guess this is how people felt after seeing Empire for the first time.
But, I did like the movie. A lot. I'm not sure if I love it yet. Probably, because, well, it's me we're talking about. There were many parts that floored me, and others that left me wanting more. I think that's my biggest problem - I want more, and there will be no more. Oh sure, they'll be EU galore, but the ending felt very rushed to me. It could have been another hour, for my liking.
Now, on to specific parts of the movie:
Padme: I actually liked her in the movie. Natalie Portman didn't suck! I would have liked to see more of her in the Senate, but overall, I felt sorry for her and enjoyed the role.
R2: DUDE! R2 rules! And I thought it was awesome that they were given to Captain Antilles, and (I think it was Bail?) told Antilles to have its memory erased. But I guess R2 remembers everything in the OT, which just amuses me to no end. He probably had nightmares of Luke going apeshit and killing everyone.
Palpatine: People have said that he steals the movie. I don't agree, but we'll get to that later. All I can say is, OH MY GOD. Possibly the best villain ever.
Bail Organa: He was awesome. Just what I expected him to be. And we finally go to see Alderaan (if even for a little bit).
Luke is older!!!!: As an EU geek, this makes me jump up and down to no end.
Padme's death: Felt very rushed. I would have liked for her and the twins to have some time together, alone, before she died. I didn't mind her dying because of the lack of will to live (in fact, I though that was why she died years ago), but I dunno. I wanted more. The funeral on Naboo was excellent, though. And her telling Obi-Wan that there was still good in Anakin.
The Immolation Scene: Well this movie definitely deserved a PG-13 rating. Wow. And Obi-Wan's dialogue to Anakin? Ripped my heart out. "I loved you!" .............. And Obi-Wan picked up Anakin's lightsaber. Guh.
Lightsaber fights: DUDE. To be honest, because of what I'd heard, I was expecting more from Obi-Wan and Anakin. BUT, splicing it with the Yoda/Palpatine fight friggin' rocked. The shot of Yoda and Palpatine rising up into the senate was SO COOL.
Yoda: Okay. Yoda rules. (As if we didn't all know that already.) I really need to watch ESB again.
The Jedi Purge: This is when I started crying. It met my expectations and much, much more. Seeing the clones turn on the Jedi was incredibly depressing. And Anakin marching into the temple? God. I had heard about the younglings, but GOD. How could he even justify that??
The arrest: I had heard conflicting stories of how Mace died. Some said Anakin killed him, others said Palpatine. So I was very confused. But they BOTH killed him. I would say that's a very fitting end for Mace. I don't buy the whole electrocution thing though. I still think it's just him being nasty from the dark side, but the electrocution gave him an excuse to look that way. Eh.
The loves scenes: Much, MUCH better.
Kasshyk: Again, Yoda rocks. Try to kill Yoda? Yeah, right. And Chewbacca putting him on his back was great. Everyone cheered at that part. I'm glad Chewbacca had a very small part. I didn't want it to be fanboy overkill.
Anakin/Vader: Hayden rocks. 'Nuff said.
Obi-Wan: Obi-Wan rocks. Ewan rocks. God he made me cry.
Anakin's turn: And here's where I get wavy. Since I became a Star Wars fan, I had ideas as to why Anakin turns to the dark side. Basically, I wanted it to be his choice, and his choice only. Obviously Palpatine seduces him to the dark side, but I didn't want him to be tricked. After the prequels started, I was very, very adamant that I didn't want Anakin to turn because of Padme's death or some other reason. So, I don't know how I feel about him agreeing to be Palpatine's apprentice just to save Padme. I know it all comes down to him wanting power and the ability to control people's lives, but I still don't know how I feel about this. At the end, though, when he was telling Padme that they could rule the galaxy, I got chills. When I watch Empire again, I will cry my eyes out at that part.
Anakin's knowledge of the "baby": I was actually quite satisfied by this. I can understand now why he doesn't go looking for them. And his shock about Leia will genuine in ROTJ.
Anakin "killing" Padme: I was very, very shocked by this. The first person Anakin force-chokes is Padme, of all people. It it ironic, that the main reason he learned the dark side was to save her, and then he ended up being responsible for her death. And the best part of this scene was Obi-Wan appearing on the ship ramp all bad-ass. I was thinking about this last night, in ROTJ when Vader says to Luke "Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends." He should know that's not true!!!! But it makes it so much more powerful though.
Vader: Not sure how I feel about this. Kind of disappointed. I liked that Anakin was trying to get off the table. It makes you feel like he didn't want to live anymore. I don't really like that the first thing he says is to ask about Padme. I always think Vader=pure dag-nasty evil. Would he care about Padme? I guess so. His reaction was not that fabulous. I liked him destroying everything, but not the yell. And Palpatine is a bastard for telling him he killed her. And incredibly stupid! Did he really think she was dead and there were no babies? I guess so, judging from the addition to the Empire DVD. And I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't a scene where Obi-Wan and Yoda learn that Anakin survived the lava.
The end: Binary sunset will never be the same. I wonder if the Lars' know what happened to Anakin.
Anakin and Obi-Wan: Now, when Obi-Wan says "And he was a good friend," I will truly believe him. IMO, that was the best part of the movie.
So that's it for now. I'm sure I'll post more when I see it. As you can see, there were parts I loved and parts I didn't. I'm dying to see it again, and talk about it with everyone!
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Date: 2005-05-19 07:32 am (UTC)My exact reaction. I'm not sure if I can watch it again. Sure, the opening I will be able to watch over and over, and the ending, but the middle? (Starting from the extermination of the Jedi.) It's just too... horrific.
I completely agree with you about the lack of Chewie (a good thing), and the Ani/Obi fight being 'less' than expected. Or perhaps I was in the shocked frame of mind so much that I couldn't get into it the way I usually do?
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Date: 2005-05-19 07:35 am (UTC)I'm seeing it again tonight. And Saturday. And Sunday. Possibly tomorrow, but I'm not sure. Yeah I'm putting myself through hell, but I really need to see this movie more.
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Date: 2005-05-19 08:38 am (UTC)This film ROCKED. In every way.
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Date: 2005-05-19 08:46 am (UTC)I also spotted Mon Mothma and Tarkin. They didn't even have lines and I lvoed them. I'm such a nerd.
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Date: 2005-05-19 09:00 am (UTC)I'm fairly sure that Daniel Logan is the Jedi kid who gets killed in front of Bail Organa
I'm also going to watch all the credits tonight!
Tarkin should have had a line!
There's also been scenes cut - we know that - BUT I WANT TO SEE THEM NOW!!
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Date: 2005-05-19 09:17 am (UTC)I know! I just saw the cheekbones and went, "TARKIN!"
Mon Mothma is only in the group shot when Palpatine returns to Coruscant in the beginning. She's in the white gown. I picked her out right away 'cause I have the action figure. :)
I REALLY want to see the cut scenes for this. Jason told me a lot of stuff with the early Rebellion was cut.
Now that I think about it, Palpatine is darn smart for leaving Coruscant when he did.
I forgot - ALL MY ACTION FIGURES ARE DEAD. It makes me so sad. :(
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Date: 2005-05-19 02:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-19 05:04 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-05-19 04:46 pm (UTC)And the Vader stuff was okay until the "yell" and the Frankenstein's monster bit.
The Purge and Order 66 were my emotional downfall too. Even as Obi is falling into the water and you know he isn't dead, it still impacts you. The music, the emotions. EU friends dying. Gah.
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Date: 2005-05-19 07:40 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-05-19 08:42 pm (UTC)THANK YOU. This is what I was trying to express to my friends last night. I couldn't put it into words though out of the shock I was in. I just kept saying "I expected more" but I wasn't even sure what I meant by that. You verbalized it the way I wish I had done last night.
But I guess R2 remembers everything in the OT
He is much better at keeping secrets that Threepio. Threepio is a blabbermouth. He would have betrayed Luke and Leia's existence the first time Vader saw him. Which kinda makes me wonder - being involved in politics, do you think Bail would have taken the droids with him to the Senate? Vader could have recognized them there, so it doesn't seem likely. *shrug*
The funeral on Naboo was excellent, though.
It was a funeral fit for a Queen.
Seeing the clones turn on the Jedi was incredibly depressing.
Having read some of the stories that take place before ROTS, the clones had such a close camraderie with the Jedi, which made this all the more harder for me to watch. BETRAYAL. I felt like raging.
So, I don't know how I feel about him agreeing to be Palpatine's apprentice just to save Padme.
Indeed. But I guess it all comes back to his mother. He swore he'd never lose anyone he loved again. In AOTC, he even says "I will learn to stop people from dying" so it does connect the two movies.
I wasn't shocked by what Anakin did to Padme. Damn spoilers. Sigh.
I liked him destroying everything, but not the yell.
Agreed. It could have been handled a little better.
Now, when Obi-Wan says "And he was a good friend," I will truly believe him.
I think this ties in beautifully. Before when I would watch that part, I never thought much of it. It wasn't real. Now... Now, it's a whole other thing. I cannot wait to watch the original trilogy again...